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I posted/asked something similar about a month and a half ago. I have the same situation, 2nd story room with windows that receive direct sunlight. I have blinds closed, ceiling fan on, and upstairs AC set at 75 F, but my computer room is consistently 5-10 F hotter than the rest of the upstairs because of the thermonuclear reactor I have in it

I did not get any real good suggestions for how to solve this problem, but here are a few of the better suggestions I got (plus some of my own musings).

1. Water cool. The heat generated by the cpu and whatever else you water cool will be transferred to the water and not your room.

2. Run a vent from your exhaust fans to some other place, like outside a window, into a closed closet, somewhere other than directly to your room.

3. Reverse fans so that they suck hot air out of your case vs. blowing ambient air in. The main assumption here is that the ambient air is much cooler than inside your case. Maybe that's not a good assumption for you and it might make more sense to reverse *some* of the fans. Not all, but some. You do need air entering after all. Remember, the coolest air in your room is at the bottom, so maybe suck in from the bottom and blow out the top.

4. Several people suggested I get an Antec P180b. So I did. Haven't received all my components yet, but I did buy the Antec case. We'll see how hot things get.

5. Get an LCD, ditch the CRT (if you have one that is). Again, I have a CRT, I bought an LCD (not here yet), so we'll see how much this helps. But I do know that my CRT is a major heat source.

good luck

Replace all lights with high efficiency Daylight CFL's.

Put a small row of 4-5 yate loons running at 7v blowing out your room window... Close the window on top of them (assuming it closes down) and put your blinds down. Works really well.

Under clock that CPU

4000BTU in-window AC's are really cheap. I got a 5200BTU unit that cost me 72$ NIB at Home Depot. If you run it from when you get home, till the end of the day (when night sets in) it shouldn't increase your bill more than a few dollars a month... Switching to CFL's often negates the increased cost of the AC (I switched my entire place to CFL's and I actually SAVE money, even after adding the 5200btu AC). A 2500BTU AC would be enough for a 13x13 room, provided you don't hate the look (as we all do).

Close all the AC vents in your basement, and wherever else you don't really need cold air. My parents house has ALL the vents closed except the top, where the cool air proceeds to flow down to lower levels. It keeps the upper layer about 3c cooler than normal, and you feel a draft of cold air going down the staircase

And, no... watercooling won't help with this. The heat eventually hits the room temp anyways
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Hmm. I have an LCD. Well two. And there's only one light. It's incandescent though, and I just put in a 100W bulb 'cause the room isn't really bright enough with a 60W. I suppose I could get a CFL, although it'll be hot even without the light on.

I'll look into closing unnecessary vents. Thanks for the responses.

Uhhhh, that one about water cooling is, well, wrong. The heat just goes from your cpu, into the water, and then the water gets cooled by yep, AIR, and thus the heat load STILL ends up in the room. It's simple laws of thermodynamics, you can't get around that without venting the warm air outside the room.


And that CRT is a big old space heater, especially a 19" or bigger....it's like having a 100 watt electric heat sitting in front of you.

I've noticed this as well. I have 4 computers in the same room all running 24/7. 2 of them are water cooled and the room is always a good 10 degrees warmer than any other room.

yeah, that's crap. do you think that the water just stays cool? it too gets hotter, then it goes through the radiator which transfers to the heat from the water to the air. Your room will probably be hotter because there is better efficiency with the water to air rather than just air.

Alright, WC is bad. Leave him be. Are there anymore suggestions?

By the way, if you're going to bold one line in a huge post, just crop the post to that one line.

If you want a cheaper version of AC, you can get a tank of water and then set a fan to blow over the surface of it to reduce temperatures a little. Remember to place the water out of direct sunlight though.

Also, don't close the blinds that traps heat within a small confined space and prevents it from circulating around the room. If you want to try and keep heat out, you'd have to apply a thermally reflective coating to the outside of the window.

Rig up some TEC's?

Srsly dude, your'e kinda SOL unless you get a cheap AC.
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73f ????????????? Dude, that's like, alaska, compared to the hot texas summers we have. My AC runs hard to keep my entire house at 75f during the 100f summer, and my computer room runs about 5f hotter than that. I have never had an overheating issue, yeah, it runs hotter than in the winter but man, as long as your temps are 10c under the max safe temp of the cpu, there is absolutely NOTHING to worry about.

IMO people are too anal about temps. Use a good cooler, seat it well with thermal paste, vent your case even half ass,a nd temps will be fine. I have never, ever, "burned" a cpu. Hell, I got a P4 2.4B overclocked to 3ghz in an old shuttle that runs kinda warm, and that thing has been running overclocked like that for 4 years. I sold it to a friend now that uses it in his business and it runs great still.
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I guess I was just complaining about how warm it is in the room compared to the rest of the house
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You're right. I shouldn't be so concerned that the hot computer room is making the computer reboot. If only I were you in Texas, I'd be okay it seems. Very glad your temps are good.

tec would make even higher temps in the room.

not if they're vented outside the room

well, anything vented outside would be cooler...

that wasn't my suggestion, that was someone else's suggestion (to me, couple of months ago, when I asked a similar question). I have no idea the specifics of watercooling, I've never done it. But if you guys say it's crap, then I'll believe you. However, IF the reservoir of water is large enough, then you won't need a radiator because the system won't run long enough to heat it all up. Now that I think of it, the suggestion was to run the water tubes through a tub of water (external pump) and skip the radiator. But again, I have no idea if that's even feasible. Sounds feasible, but I don't know.

My room is always the hottest, and even still my computer is off during the day when I'm not home.

I have central AC, and even that doesn't cool my room down right quick.

I just open up a window and put a fan on my desk to blow in the cooler air. Usually that helps.

And for those thinking that LCD screens are not as hot as CRTs, the LCD does get a bit hot. I just felt the back of my Acer 19" and its fairly warm.

As for water-cooling, what about draining a bit of water and putting ice cubes in the reservoir (if so applicable)?

MMmm, condensation.

A fan in the window during the day only pushes around the hot air. Airflow might feel a little nicer, but it isn't significant enough for a computer. Most nights it cools down a fair amount and I can put a fan in the window then. Right now I've got the room somewhat cool.

Watercooling can get pretty pricey, and I'd rather save what money I can spare for a new rig someday.

Gonna see about maybe putting an exhaust fan in the attic. Thinking it might at least keep hot air from settling so much. If it helps by even a degree or two, it'll be nice. Haven't checked for useless vents yet. Will do that soon.

You either have to reduce the amount of heat the components of the system produce, or remove the heat from the room itself.

You could watercool, and mount the radiator outside the room, that would work. Or underclock the system. Or put a fan in the window.

I'd underclock if the computer were the problem, but the room is simply naturally hot due to the house and heat rising.

Plus it's a 3000+ AthlonXP and I need all the speed I can get.

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I'd underclock if the computer were the problem, but the room is simply naturally hot due to the house and heat rising.

Plus it's a 3000+ AthlonXP and I need all the speed I can get.

Good job! Awesome news. The pics show the movie in windowed mode---I'm assuming it looks just as flawless full-screen on your Westy 37"?

great work, glad to know people are taking advantage of this, fairly well priced hd gen media.

Yea, I just had it in windowed mode to actually prove it was playing on my PC in PowerDVD, and not off the Xbox 360. Full screen it looks crystal clear and flawless. My friend was almost shitting his pants when he saw the picture 1080p HD-DVD produces. The audio is just as impressive too. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get picture-in-picture to go away in the King Kong movie. It has this "U-control" thing for special features, and even if I turn it off, PIP doesn't go away. I think there is a hotkey or something for it, but I can't find it. lol. It would help if I had a HD-DVD remote with the A B C D buttons. I just need to figure out the PowerDVD shortcut for it.

Where did you find the HD DVD version of power dvd?

I've been posting this for a while now. You get 6.5 OEM. Cannot buy. Use your brain.

However you can buy the new PowerDVD Ultra which gets rid of all the bugs with 6.5.

I ran King kong and U Me + Dupree with no problems.

You need a decently "strong" PC to take advantage. Dual core is preferred.
On another note that drive is noisy. I'd like to see if I can find a way to install internal or maybe just enclose it again because it really is a tad noisy.

I have this working as well. Can't wait to set it up on my Westinghouse 42" 1080P!


I have one question though. Dolby Digital enhanced is not supported on the Xbox 360 via this drive, is it supported as long as you have the necessary hardware in your HTPC, ie.X-Fi card?

I've been posting this for a while now. You get 6.5 OEM. Cannot buy. Use your brain.

However you can buy the new PowerDVD Ultra which gets rid of all the bugs with 6.5.

I ran King kong and U Me + Dupree with no problems.

You need a decently "strong" PC to take advantage. Dual core is preferred.
On another note that drive is noisy. I'd like to see if I can find a way to install internal or maybe just enclose it again because it really is a tad noisy.

#7 12-27-2006, 08:36 AM
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I have this working as well. Can't wait to set it up on my Westinghouse 42" 1080P!


I have one question though. Dolby Digital enhanced is not supported on the Xbox 360 via this drive, is it supported as long as you have the necessary hardware in your HTPC, ie.X-Fi card?

Are you using straight up PowerDVD or do you have Purevideo loaded as well? I take it you're playing this on your AM2 rig in your sig?

I do not think it would run on any of the others.

Dual core is almost a must for HD. The only reason the JunkBox 360 can run it is because it has 3 cores.

Yea, I just had it in windowed mode to actually prove it was playing on my PC in PowerDVD, and not off the Xbox 360. Full screen it looks crystal clear and flawless. My friend was almost shitting his pants when he saw the picture 1080p HD-DVD produces. The audio is just as impressive too. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get picture-in-picture to go away in the King Kong movie. It has this "U-control" thing for special features, and even if I turn it off, PIP doesn't go away. I think there is a hotkey or something for it, but I can't find it. lol. It would help if I had a HD-DVD remote with the A B C D buttons. I just need to figure out the PowerDVD shortcut for it.

Good job! Awesome news. The pics show the movie in windowed mode---I'm assuming it looks just as flawless full-screen on your Westy 37"?

great work, glad to know people are taking advantage of this, fairly well priced hd gen media.

Yea, I just had it in windowed mode to actually prove it was playing on my PC in PowerDVD, and not off the Xbox 360. Full screen it looks crystal clear and flawless. My friend was almost shitting his pants when he saw the picture 1080p HD-DVD produces. The audio is just as impressive too. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get picture-in-picture to go away in the King Kong movie. It has this "U-control" thing for special features, and even if I turn it off, PIP doesn't go away. I think there is a hotkey or something for it, but I can't find it. lol. It would help if I had a HD-DVD remote with the A B C D buttons. I just need to figure out the PowerDVD shortcut for it.

Where did you find the HD DVD version of power dvd?

I've been posting this for a while now. You get 6.5 OEM. Cannot buy. Use your brain.

However you can buy the new PowerDVD Ultra which gets rid of all the bugs with 6.5.

I ran King kong and U Me + Dupree with no problems.

You need a decently "strong" PC to take advantage. Dual core is preferred.
On another note that drive is noisy. I'd like to see if I can find a way to install internal or maybe just enclose it again because it really is a tad noisy.

I have this working as well. Can't wait to set it up on my Westinghouse 42" 1080P!


I have one question though. Dolby Digital enhanced is not supported on the Xbox 360 via this drive, is it supported as long as you have the necessary hardware in your HTPC, ie.X-Fi card?

Are you using straight up PowerDVD or do you have Purevideo loaded as well? I take it you're playing this on your AM2 rig in your sig?
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do not think it would run on any of the others.

Dual core is almost a must for HD. The only reason the JunkBox 360 can run it is because it has 3 cores

so because it can do what a high end PC can do it's now considered a "JunkBox"?

how narrow minded and biased

Heh. junkbox 360 + hddvd setup = $500

PC that can run it + hd-dvd = $1200

You need a GOOD HDCP card, GOOD dual core, 1gb ram, fast hdd

Some people don't get it, do they, nobody?

at least from a HDDVD playback standpoint anyways, and i actually got rid of my high end dual core PC to get a 360 and never looked back, i am completely satisfied with my 360 and it continues to improve and impress me

Junk Box indeed ...

Ok.. this thread isn't about the "shitbox360" or whatever else you guys want to call it. I don't give a shit about a console. This is explicitly about the PC + Xbox360 HD-DVD drive. If there is anymore childish bullshit, I'll report the posts to mods. Incredibly childish. Go argue in the Xbox360 vs. PS3 threads.
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You dumped your PC for a console?

Whatever floats your boat

Didn't really notice your machine. Nice little setup you have.

Have you used the Ultra yet? I downloaded this morning. Want to see if it is a bit smoother and works out a few kinks.


How loud is the GTX? Is it louder than say the HD Drive?

Tried Ultra and it is sooo much better than OEM 6.5.