前Valve社员工:Steam正在杀死PC游戏 Epic是救世主
- firestorm5资本家的救世主吧
都锁区独占了还有什么可说的 - 牛兔子都是生意啊
- magicianxu那么epic抽成多少?
- natt
- jf8350143epic 国内锁区锁支付,所以国内人人喊打。
国外一样人人喊打,因为他作为一个2018年12月上线的商店,连搜索功能都是到今年2月还是3月才加入的…………还一边通过独占逼着玩家用他的平台,一边喊着是良性竞争是帮助开发商 - fantuanxiaoyi现在好像是12%吧。
老实讲纯数字产品30~35%是挺多的,比如google商店和App Store...给他们带来了天量的资金流。你想想亚马逊和天猫才多少,还不算传统电商的营销工具丰富一万倍。 - UmarIbnLaAhad
- pgain2004目前为止都没看到有锁下载运行的证据……所以这个回复还是别随便拿来当论据比较好。
- jf8350143epic 抽12%,如果你用虚幻引擎还有进一步的引擎授权费减免。
有一说一,Epic 给的条件是很优秀的,如果光看这个分成,他让开发商获利的话还有那么点可信度。
可惜平台一坨屎,做的事情说的话实在是没脸没皮……只看出来跪舔发行商跑马圈地坑害玩家,顺便让开发商背锅,没看出来是希望良性竞争 - qty怎么感觉说的一堆都是废话啊,一句干货没有。说steam不好的地方全是他认为,反倒是说epic不足的地方倒是挺实事求是,他到底是站在哪边的啊?
- pgain2004TheDORIANGRAE #E3
@TheDORIANGRAE
· Apr 5, 2019
Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic and 4 others
The saddest part it is I despise Andrew Wilson who popularized lootboxes. But at least as pathetic as Wilson is EA gave the illusion of getting something. All Epic has done is take. Cannibalized every game in your roster. Left Save The World for dead. Now you're killing PC gaming
Richard Geldreich
@richgel999
Steam was killing PC gaming. It was a 30% tax on an entire industry. It was unsustainable. You have no idea how profitable Steam was for Valve. It was a virtual printing press. It distorted the entire company. Epic is fixing this for all gamers.
10:15 AM - Apr 5, 2019
DatGrunt
@DatGrunt1775
· Apr 5, 2019
Replying to @richgel999 and 4 others
Steam is the only reason PC gaming isn't dead. What the hell are you talking about? Do you not remember how bad PC gaming was? EPIC THEMSELVES DITCHED PC GAMING AND MOVED TO CONSOLES and only came back until things were better.
Richard Geldreich
@richgel999
So Steam was first - so what? At the time, Steam’s 30% revshare looked good compared to the 50% revshare from retail. Now - it’s ridiculus and oppressive to game developers. Valve became abusive to its partners and employees. It took them for granted.
10:40 AM - Apr 5, 2019
大致意思倒是没错,但把fixing it翻成救世主什么的,国内某些媒体翻译是真的恶心。 - 弹幕steam抽3成确实多,但是服务确实没话说,其他平台抽成少体验一坨屎怕不是起负面作用
- trentswdepic分成12% 减免虚幻引擎费用 还有独占补贴
光说条件当然好
但是一般的游戏它不收啊
天天指望少分成的独立开发商,上去的有几个? - 华丽の蝴蝶
あぁ、我が救世主
- 风中凌舞谷歌苹果都抽30%,怎么到steam这里就是抽30%太多了,要我说三家都是抽太多了
- tanoan阿育真开心,epic再多买点更好
- 丹德里恩
爆诞!Epic Revive!
- Samvery泥潭某些人不锁激活不锁运行的便宜俄区key买的美滋滋,转头抱怨g胖吸血太狠
WHEN 30% ISN'T REALLY 30% —
Why Valve actually gets less than 30 percent of Steam game sales
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/04/why-valve-actually-gets-less-than-30-percent-of-steam-game-sales/
—— 來自 Xiaomi Mi Note 2, Android 8.0.0上的S1Next-鵝版v2.1.2 - whzfjk疯了,发行商是在抓住历史节点赌国运吗
- Samvery我还是标个重点吧
The reason for the discrepancy is Steam keys, which developers can generate pretty much at will to sell through non-Steam storefronts and brick-and-mortar retailers. While these key-based purchases are still redeemed through Steam and can take advantage of Steam's suite of features, Valve actually takes no commission from sales that don't take place directly through its own storefront.
—— 來自 Xiaomi Mi Note 2, Android 8.0.0上的S1Next-鵝版v2.1.2 - walthex
- fantuanxiaoyi你们公司的云服务器+本地服务器+开发+运维成本能占到公司总营收的30%?不说30%吧,能有3%没?
- trentswdpc实体版 虽然steam激活但是不算steam的销售
还有别的商店卖的 什么杉果方块 什么亚马逊GMG 什么人人喜闻乐见的俄区key
还有进包的那些
开发者后台想生成几个key就生成几个,steam不抽的,只抽从steam商店直接买的
话是这么说,不知道epic怎么算的,可能epic也不抽key - 观自在
- gzwind没事他爹腾讯收的少多了才收90%
- 烽火连城主机玩家早就看穿这一切了吧
- Samvery
- pgain2004我用它玩Ashen没遇到运行限制。而且我这就一个案例,网上能看到亲测的都说能下能玩,主要是锁商店锁支付。
如果该回复确实真假交织,那么一堆人兴冲冲用它当论据然后被打脸,很好玩么?
同理,一堆人拿被扭曲过的资讯来争辩,不觉得很傻么? - Pelishere今天刚领了个见证者,特殊操作仅限于改账号信息为美国&开全局威屁恩领游戏,下载运行不锁区的
- ギナ好在目前还没有日厂傻到让epic独占
- whzfjk这就是日厂眼光狭窄的好处了,早鸟发现了steam的新大陆,现在正是拖家带口的蜜月期,相对的欧美PC那边已经是steam的老主顾了,七年之痒,怪不得跑得如脚底抹油
- ビッチ玩家喜欢在steam买,钱让steam挣去了GOG当然没盈利
- nukacolamania说到Epic有多傻逼,网站上连个看自己游戏库里有几个游戏的链接都没有
刚去领了个Witness,虽然肯定不会下载他家客户端,但是万一Epic要按份数给工作室付钱呢?得替他分忧解难啊不是吗? - 魔法酪饼
- ScrummbleiOS和安卓是苹果和谷歌写的
windows linux osx都不是valve写的
你要说微软抽三成我都觉得比sbeam抽三成更合理 - leina0602你说的wegame吗,手游我记得腾讯是抽5成